New Spainish and German vertical real estate search engine

November 22, 2007 at 9:44 am | In europe, germany, nuroa, search, spain | Leave a Comment

With growing interest in the German property market, and the increasing influence of Spanish real estate; Nuroa.com presents an opportunity for property searchers to search in 3 different languages including Spanish, German and English. The site seems pretty comprehensive, giving users the opportunity to learn about local markets by including local blog posts and property guides in the search results. Surprisingly Nuroa’s search results aren’t displayed on a map, which is very unusual for a vertical search engine.

Extate’s got the biggest pagerank

November 16, 2007 at 6:32 pm | In pagerank, search | 2 Comments

I’m not even sure … does pagerank mean much anymore?
But it’s always been important in getting high Google placement and it’s what differentiates the Goog from all the other search engines. With that in mind (and Friday afternoon boredom) I decided to check out which of the new vertical property sites had the biggest pagerank and low and behold Extate.co.uk came in first with 6/10; meanwhile Zoomf, Nestoria and Properrazi all scored 5/10.

[excuse the dodgy screenshots]

Both Extate and Rightmove scored 6/10

Nestoria, Zoomf and Properrazi all scored 5/10

But does this actually mean anything?

Zoomf redesigns (again)

November 7, 2007 at 2:32 pm | In design, search, zoomf | 3 Comments

Just got the update from the lovely Poppy Dinsey on the latest Zoomf redesign – the second for the year.
It looks – well colourful – and they’ve also added a visual search tool, which we haven’t quite gotten the relevance of yet, but is apparently supposed to let users hunt for property by drawing a search area on the map. Zoomf is the only property site using this technology – according to Poppy – but if it’s running on Google Maps, no doubt it’s pretty simple to do and I’m sure the other sites will copy pretty quickly if it proves to be a hit.
The redesign looks wonderful, and the Zoomf engine comes packed with loads of information including video tutorials on relevant topics for property searchers. It also seems as though they’ve built their very own ad-platform (similar to Extate) with indigenous ads for Inside Track and Amazon running on nearly every page; as well as ads for local estate agents popping up now and again.
Still Zoomf is only searching London, while the other players (Extate/Nestoria) who started around the same time as them; have rapidly expanded to include search listings from other countries including Spain, France, Italy and South Africa.

Nestoria’s newest offering

October 30, 2007 at 4:36 pm | In nestoria, search, technology | Leave a Comment

Proving perhaps to be the most responsive vertical search engine in the industry, Nestoria announced today the latest upgrade to their API which will allow 3rd party web developers the ability to: “request ‘meta’ information about an area like average prices.”
For now the data is only available to show information from the previous month, but over time Nestoria promises to make increase data availability making time trends possible.

Thinkproperty "bites" Nestoria: now introducing "valuable local information"

October 23, 2007 at 3:41 pm | In nestoria, property2.0, search, thinkproperty | 3 Comments

Geez Louise, cant these guys come with something a little more original? From their weak ass press statement released this afternoon:


For the first time, home movers can access valuable local information relating to all advertised UK properties, at the click of a button and all in one place. The new Google map overlays include mainline railway stations, hospitals, state and independent primary and secondary schools. When searching for a home, house hunters simply select which data they would like to plot on the Google map by clicking on a check box in the corner of the map. Users can plot all the data sets on the Google map or just the data set they are interested in. The property search data sets are then represented by small icons plotted on the map.


err … OK, but Nestoria’s been doing this since way back in the 2.0 darkages of June 2006.
ThinkProperty, it’s time to come correct; stop biting and come original

Extate now running adverts

October 12, 2007 at 3:21 pm | In advertising, extate, marketing, search | 1 Comment

Spotted today on Extate.co.uk are adverts for Knight Frank, Savills, Miller Homes and Mortgage Angels. At the bottom of the search results is a link worded “Your Online Guide to Mortgages” which seems to be a mortgage quotation service apparently provided by Mortgage Angels.
Sam Sethi recently explained that Extate had incorporated the Openads advertising platform, which would give Extate the opportunity to provide local solicitors, removal companies and other businesses the opportunity to “advertise to a highly targeted audience.”
The only problem with the Extate model is traffic, something Extate currently lacks. Extate founder Artemi Krymski and I discussed this problem a few weeks ago, and he refused to reveal specific numbers, but in a Blognation comment, Krymski claimed that Extate traffic was “now beginning to approach 1M”, an ambiguous comment, if there ever was one, after all, the numeral ‘one’ is a number that approaches one million. Unconfirmed figures put Extate traffic at a steady 50,000 visitors per month, but so far nothing forthcoming officially from them.
If Extate is truly serious about marketing their advertising platform, and if they expect it to take off, they will have to quickly reveal traffic numbers to the general public. However, with the likes of Knight Frank advertising on the service, no doubt there’s something good brewing behind the scenes

Oodle relaunches index

October 2, 2007 at 10:01 am | In oodle, relaunch, search | Leave a Comment

Oodle UK is set to relaunch their property index service, with some new features on the index graph including the option to choose between median price and price distribution, outlining the companies strategy to become more of a consumer buying tool rather than just being a classified search engine.

Oodle’s search results also feature an interesting ‘above or below’ market value percentage alongside the property’s price

Nestoria bientôt en français ?

October 1, 2007 at 1:42 pm | In france, nestoria, search | 2 Comments

Something is happening; nestoria.fr brings up this page but so far no comment from Nestoria officials.


Translation: We will soon be ready to help you in your house or apartment search, to buy or rent in France. Meanwhile, visit our sites in the United Kingdom and Spain:

In other Nestoria news and what they are talking about is the new homes search feature launched today on nestoria.co.uk and nestoria.es


Extate seem poised for success

September 24, 2007 at 7:28 pm | In extate, property2.0, search, technology | 8 Comments

It’s been about 18 months since Byte Play Ltd, the company that owns Extate.co.uk was founded by Douglas De Jagger and Artemi Krymski, two post grad computer students from Imperial College.
Late last month, Byte Play announced that Extate had now received their first major round of funding from The Accelarator Group (TAG), the venture capital conglomerate who had previously backed Lastminute.com, Last.fm and Agent Provocateur. This past weekend Artemi and I had a chance to catch up over coffee and as expected, we ended up discussing some issues surrounding the funding plus and future plans for Extate, now that they have some heavyweight players backing them up.
TAG chose to back Extate over the other property vertical search engines – Artemi claims – because of a crucial difference in their business model over other vertical property search engines. Many bloggers assume Extate is basically the same as other vertical search mash-ups; throw a crawler out, grab some data, mash it up, get a funky logo and and voila, deal done !
But pay closer attention,and you will notice differences, some subtle, some not so subtle, perhaps the biggest being that Extate only produces search results directly from estate agents website and not via third party ‘property portals’ such as Findaproperty.com, Propertfinder.com, or Rightmove.
Nestoria, Oodle.co.uk and the popular OnoneMap.com offer a significant portion of their search results from portals, but Artemi feels that this deteriorates the quality of their search results. He mentioned the popular ‘flyboarding’ strategy that many agents use, when advertising via portals and believes that close to 30% of all listings on portals are actually ‘flyboards’:

“What that does, is when a customer calls in about a property he’s seen advertised, the agent says that the property has been sold and then offers them another one, or takes their details for their database.”

Artemi feels that the information on the agents website is always fresher and more up to date than what’s on the portals and that by crawling agents websites for data, the Extate engine is much more beneficial for consumers. What is also quite unique about Extate, and what probably makes them technically superior to their rivals is the ‘artificial intelligence’ (AI) technology which they employ in gathering data from websites.
The Extate AI analysis tool, not only crawls the web for property data, but is also able to extract useful information out of the sites it crawls, enhancing user experience with the ability to specify price and property location on a particular site. So for example , if a user is looking for a ‘2 bed house over 300 sq ft’ the Extate engine simply does not just use simple text-matching to match user queries to webpages. Instead the patented AI technology permits the Extate engine to extract information such as square footage details and other information from within the estate agent’s website. No two estate agency websites are designed the same and the search parameters vary from website to website.
The AI analysis ultimately answers the users query in a ‘natural language format’, something that no other property search engine in the world is currently doing, a process that Art describes as ‘technically challenging’, but clearly worth the effort if it translates to a greater user experience and increased consumer traffic.
A search on Extate takes the user straight to the source of the original listing, extracting data using artificial intelligence, and like pretty much all vertical property engines, they do it all for free; neither the agent nor the consumer pays for the service. So of course the challenge is to make money and the problem is that right now they’re not making much. At the moment people tend to look at Extate and other vertical search engines with a lot of curiosity, deciding the best of the bunch is probably the one that’s most “fun” but does anyone really take them seriously?
Rightmove, of course has a bunch of traffic and record profits as over 13,000 agents pay a minimum of £250/month to list properties on the portal. But can this model last with the new players like Extate offering such a viable alternative? In today’s downward spiraling property market ‘free’ is a very tempting word for an agent, but the problem of course is that Extate hardly has any traffic and for the moment, don’t seem much of a problem for the likes of Rightmove or Findaproperty, but:

“the portals realize we’re a better model for agents, they’re extremely happy we don’t have traffic but they realize thier approach probably will not last much longer. if not us, then maybe Google, who knows, but the information will be free”.

Things change quickly in the world of 2.0 internet, and things are changing quickly in today’s property market. Extate seems poised to take advantage of this atmosphere in that their technology is unique, and their business model transferable and expandable at relatively short notice.

Extate is feeling wealthy

September 20, 2007 at 7:17 am | In extate, property2.0, search | Leave a Comment

Never mind the credit crunch, with the money they just got Extate can now afford to feel a little wealthy. Check out their homepage to see what I’m talking about

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