Comments on: Properazzi, the world’s largest property search engine with nothing to show for it http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/ New Business Real Estate Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:51:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: renthusiast http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1316 renthusiast Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:04:00 +0000 http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1316 Mike , your comment seems to be direct/indirectly aimed at Nestoria and I guess OnOneMap. What about the argument that by "aggregating the aggregators" you drive traffic to the aggregator, thereby creating a win-win situation? Mike , your comment seems to be direct/indirectly aimed at Nestoria and I guess OnOneMap. What about the argument that by “aggregating the aggregators” you drive traffic to the aggregator, thereby creating a win-win situation?

]]> By: Tony From Vidlisting.com http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1315 Tony From Vidlisting.com Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:40:00 +0000 http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1315 The meta lesson here seems to be that you cant have a business model built on a feature - meaning just plunk some aggregation or crawler technology out on the web, fire off some initial press releases, and check your bank account at end of each month. <br/><br/>Interestingly, I see more and more of just that very approach each month with a slew of new real estate technology 2.0 startups. The intent of mashups should be value-additive and not just the same old stuff, right?<br/><br/>Tony The meta lesson here seems to be that you cant have a business model built on a feature – meaning just plunk some aggregation or crawler technology out on the web, fire off some initial press releases, and check your bank account at end of each month.

Interestingly, I see more and more of just that very approach each month with a slew of new real estate technology 2.0 startups. The intent of mashups should be value-additive and not just the same old stuff, right?

Tony

]]> By: Mike Carter http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1314 Mike Carter Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:38:00 +0000 http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1314 Hi Harvey<br/>Interesting post and I'm glad to see other engines making their own inroads. I'm also of the opinion that engines need to sample revenue models other than vanilla ad models. But it is still early days in our opinion...<br/>And to respond to your post on Zoomf.... there are two things we have done on purpose with our strategy, which is no secret. One, we don't aggregate the aggregators. I suspect, without naming names, that many property 'search engines' do just that. Seems a bad strategy to us for two obvious reasons...<br/>One, they can pull the plug on your most valuable asset at any time (especially if you threaten their existence aka portal) and two, establishing relations directly with agents is vital to our business which is why we engage the London market. Then you have to consider why are you aggregating the aggregators. Is your technology not on par with a googlebot? We could aggregate the aggregators if we chose to, but what purpose does that serve the consumer? But more importantly, you are only as comprehensive as the aggregator you collect from and as far as product flexibility, you are probably limited. Meta search is not crawling. Extate is 100% correct in this and their white paper is brilliant....<br/><br/>And if you think Zoomf is never leaving the M25 well..... no comment <br/>:-) Hi Harvey
Interesting post and I’m glad to see other engines making their own inroads. I’m also of the opinion that engines need to sample revenue models other than vanilla ad models. But it is still early days in our opinion…
And to respond to your post on Zoomf…. there are two things we have done on purpose with our strategy, which is no secret. One, we don’t aggregate the aggregators. I suspect, without naming names, that many property ’search engines’ do just that. Seems a bad strategy to us for two obvious reasons…
One, they can pull the plug on your most valuable asset at any time (especially if you threaten their existence aka portal) and two, establishing relations directly with agents is vital to our business which is why we engage the London market. Then you have to consider why are you aggregating the aggregators. Is your technology not on par with a googlebot? We could aggregate the aggregators if we chose to, but what purpose does that serve the consumer? But more importantly, you are only as comprehensive as the aggregator you collect from and as far as product flexibility, you are probably limited. Meta search is not crawling. Extate is 100% correct in this and their white paper is brilliant….

And if you think Zoomf is never leaving the M25 well….. no comment
:-)

]]> By: renthusiast http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1313 renthusiast Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:18:00 +0000 http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1313 thanks Ed, glad to see you're working on it, here's the tiny link to your post http://tinyurl.com/2n9d7o thanks Ed, glad to see you’re working on it, here’s the tiny link to your post http://tinyurl.com/2n9d7o

]]> By: Ed http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1312 Ed Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:17:00 +0000 http://renthusiast.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/properazzi-the-worlds-largest-property-search-engine-with-nothing-to-show-for-it/#comment-1312 Hi Harvey,<br/><br/>we (Nestoria) know people are very interested in 'metadata' of this type and are working on providing it in more regular fashion. See today's post:<br/><br/>http://blog.nestoria.co.uk/2007/08/29/where-the-clicks-are-part-ii/<br/><br/>Good luck with the Tripoli house search. Hi Harvey,

we (Nestoria) know people are very interested in ‘metadata’ of this type and are working on providing it in more regular fashion. See today’s post:

http://blog.nestoria.co.uk/2007/08/29/where-the-clicks-are-part-ii/

Good luck with the Tripoli house search.

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